I thought Batman Begins was very good. Not the Best! Movie! EVAHHH!!, but when taken in context of the Batman film franchise, it's not surprising the fanboys fell all over themselves praising it.
Well, I wasn't talking about the fanboys so much as the critics. The fanboys gushing all over it was no surprise.
The last Batman movie was Batman and Robin in 1997, and, well, you know. To have a movie that returned to the gothic roots of the character and had a well-cast, respectable actor playing Bruce Wayne (and a pretty prestigious supporting cast), and was not obviously a "comic book movie" was probably an ecstatic dream come true for the faithful.
Oh, it was definitely a welcome "reboot" after B&R all but ran the series into the ground.
I just can't get too worked up over Hayden's Razzie. As may_child pointed out (great post, btw),
Thanks. :-)
the Razzies are just a publicity stunt by self-important geeks with too much time on their hands, and also, it's far more likely that "Golden Globe nominee" will precede Hayden's name in the press (and particularly in any future ad campaigns) than "Razzie winner," especially if his next projects have commercial success and/or critical favor. I can't think of anyone's career being seriously hurt by a Razzie unless the person actually deserved it and their career was going nowhere, anyway.
Well said. Plus Hayden's already gotten some independent movie awards for "Shattered Glass," which are arguably more prestigious than the Globes or the Oscars, at least in some circles.
I think he'll be fine. The nasty, jealous fanboys will want him to fail out of sheer spite, and will crow over any misstep he makes (although of course they immediately forgive/excuse any misstep that, say, Natalie makes), but that says a lot more about them than it does about Hayden. He seems to just take it in stride, as something that goes with the territory of playing an iconic character whose nature, personality, motivations, etc. had been speculated upon and written about for the better part of two decades.
Anakin was a character that fanboyz felt they owned, and thus were furious when Lucas didn't follow their exact desires, mutually contradictory though they often were, of Anakin being a great guy, a pillar of righteousness who was also completely badass and practically Vader from the outset.
Currently, their main bitch is that Anakin's turn to the Dark Side was "dumb, naive and immature." Uh...yeah, that's the point! He's turning to the Dark Side. To evil. To what brings about his destruction and the destruction of everything he cares about. Did these fanboys want his turn to the Dark Side to be an intelligent, well-thought-out, mature decision? One he carefully weighed and debated out to himself? Evidently so.
Good LORD. I find that disturbing, on a number of levels.
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Date: 2006-03-06 09:02 pm (UTC)Well, I wasn't talking about the fanboys so much as the critics. The fanboys gushing all over it was no surprise.
The last Batman movie was Batman and Robin in 1997, and, well, you know. To have a movie that returned to the gothic roots of the character and had a well-cast, respectable actor playing Bruce Wayne (and a pretty prestigious supporting cast), and was not obviously a "comic book movie" was probably an ecstatic dream come true for the faithful.
Oh, it was definitely a welcome "reboot" after B&R all but ran the series into the ground.
I just can't get too worked up over Hayden's Razzie. As may_child pointed out (great post, btw),
Thanks. :-)
the Razzies are just a publicity stunt by self-important geeks with too much time on their hands, and also, it's far more likely that "Golden Globe nominee" will precede Hayden's name in the press (and particularly in any future ad campaigns) than "Razzie winner," especially if his next projects have commercial success and/or critical favor. I can't think of anyone's career being seriously hurt by a Razzie unless the person actually deserved it and their career was going nowhere, anyway.
Well said. Plus Hayden's already gotten some independent movie awards for "Shattered Glass," which are arguably more prestigious than the Globes or the Oscars, at least in some circles.
I think he'll be fine. The nasty, jealous fanboys will want him to fail out of sheer spite, and will crow over any misstep he makes (although of course they immediately forgive/excuse any misstep that, say, Natalie makes), but that says a lot more about them than it does about Hayden. He seems to just take it in stride, as something that goes with the territory of playing an iconic character whose nature, personality, motivations, etc. had been speculated upon and written about for the better part of two decades.
Anakin was a character that fanboyz felt they owned, and thus were furious when Lucas didn't follow their exact desires, mutually contradictory though they often were, of Anakin being a great guy, a pillar of righteousness who was also completely badass and practically Vader from the outset.
Currently, their main bitch is that Anakin's turn to the Dark Side was "dumb, naive and immature." Uh...yeah, that's the point! He's turning to the Dark Side. To evil. To what brings about his destruction and the destruction of everything he cares about. Did these fanboys want his turn to the Dark Side to be an intelligent, well-thought-out, mature decision? One he carefully weighed and debated out to himself? Evidently so.
Good LORD. I find that disturbing, on a number of levels.