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So that's where I've seen it!
Apr. 12th, 2006 07:33 pmIn collecting habit news, my second custom ShopStarWars.com t-shirt shows up today. It's the cartoony Padmé one, which is now back in the Padmé section, not in the Leia section as it was when I ordered it. The good news is that it's in the right place. The bad news is, the cooler captions you could've used for Leia tees are not available for Padmé tees. So mine has "start a revolution" on it. Heh heh. It's a nice shirt. For you bigger gals or those who don't like fitted or baby-doll style tees, get the ladies' scoop neck tee instead. It fits like a regular t-shirt.
Anyway, ever since I first saw ROTS, I wondered where I'd seen some of the shots in the Order 66 scenes before. They looked familiar. I was sure they were homages to scenes from another movie, but for the life of me, I couldn't figure out which one. It's bugged me for almost a year. Finally, I got my answer. On the ROTS chapter by chapter thread on TFN, they were discussing the Order 66 sequence when a darth-amedda posted this:
I have little observation for those who like various connections and references. After seeing Order 66 for the first time I felt sth familiar about this scene, but couldn't recognize the source of my associations. Knowing that in SW films you can find almost whole history of the worldwide cinematography - from Ben Hur to Kurosawa - I could assume that there might be real reasons for such feeling. It took me quite a long time to find out what was at stake. And it was so obvious that I was even kind of ashamed of my previous ignorance. But let's go to the merit.
In my opinion there are obviopus parallels between cetrtain shots from Order 66 and one of the most famous scenes in the history of cinema. I mean the massacre on the Odessa Steps from silent Eisenstein's film Battleship Potemkin (1925), where ruthless Tsarist soldiers march down stairs in machine-like fashion, slaughtering innocent people trying to escape. Other shots from this scene have been referenced lots of time in many films, for example with homage in De Palma's The Untouchables (the baby in a carriage).
One of the most obvious examples is the use of boots to represent cruelty and blind obedience of the soldiers.
It fits quite well general pattern of SW saga, because Battleship Potemkin might be seen as the Russian equivalent to Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will in German propaganda, which has been used as an visual inspiration for the finale of ANH.
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Besides you can also notice homage to this scene in the previous march on the Jedi temple with the only difference that clones are marching up the stairs.
While there might be a memory from The Untouchables or one of The Godfather flicks bubbling around in my noggin too, I have also seen Battleship Potemkin. In fact, there was an article about Lucas that mentioned he had a picture of Potemkin director Joseph Eisenstein sitting around. Now it all makes sense.
darth-amedda also posted these pictures from ROTS and Battleship Potemkin for comparison:
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3613/66bootsjpg0cz.jpg
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8179/odessabootsjpg6ri.jpg
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8084/66clonesjpg8lk.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6977/odessastairsjpg9ag.jpg
Anyway, ever since I first saw ROTS, I wondered where I'd seen some of the shots in the Order 66 scenes before. They looked familiar. I was sure they were homages to scenes from another movie, but for the life of me, I couldn't figure out which one. It's bugged me for almost a year. Finally, I got my answer. On the ROTS chapter by chapter thread on TFN, they were discussing the Order 66 sequence when a darth-amedda posted this:
I have little observation for those who like various connections and references. After seeing Order 66 for the first time I felt sth familiar about this scene, but couldn't recognize the source of my associations. Knowing that in SW films you can find almost whole history of the worldwide cinematography - from Ben Hur to Kurosawa - I could assume that there might be real reasons for such feeling. It took me quite a long time to find out what was at stake. And it was so obvious that I was even kind of ashamed of my previous ignorance. But let's go to the merit.
In my opinion there are obviopus parallels between cetrtain shots from Order 66 and one of the most famous scenes in the history of cinema. I mean the massacre on the Odessa Steps from silent Eisenstein's film Battleship Potemkin (1925), where ruthless Tsarist soldiers march down stairs in machine-like fashion, slaughtering innocent people trying to escape. Other shots from this scene have been referenced lots of time in many films, for example with homage in De Palma's The Untouchables (the baby in a carriage).
One of the most obvious examples is the use of boots to represent cruelty and blind obedience of the soldiers.
It fits quite well general pattern of SW saga, because Battleship Potemkin might be seen as the Russian equivalent to Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will in German propaganda, which has been used as an visual inspiration for the finale of ANH.
...
Besides you can also notice homage to this scene in the previous march on the Jedi temple with the only difference that clones are marching up the stairs.
While there might be a memory from The Untouchables or one of The Godfather flicks bubbling around in my noggin too, I have also seen Battleship Potemkin. In fact, there was an article about Lucas that mentioned he had a picture of Potemkin director Joseph Eisenstein sitting around. Now it all makes sense.
darth-amedda also posted these pictures from ROTS and Battleship Potemkin for comparison:
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3613/66bootsjpg0cz.jpg
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8179/odessabootsjpg6ri.jpg
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8084/66clonesjpg8lk.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6977/odessastairsjpg9ag.jpg
